Couper Decaler‘s new album, New Black comes straight from the banlieus’ of Paris via the Ivory Coast. Packed with Afro-futurism, tumbling beats and bags of swag(er) the project is heavy with an anarchistic and shameless attitude. To get an idea of what and who is behind the project we had a chat with director Monika Gintersdorfer, who organised the stage performance which was the original inspiration for the album.
Where did Couper Decaler come from?
Couper Decaler was invented in the 2002/2003 in Paris by a group of young Ivorian men, who called themselves “La Jet Set”. Their leader named himself after the president Douk Saga and they created the style, dance moves and important slogans, that define Couper Decaler. The group has an anarchistic, shameless and competitive spiri,t that involves showing off a lot in a very creative way. The outstanding, subversive act was to change the social order by using the names of important roles like the banker, the ambassador, Sarkozy, Lino Versace etc. At the same time in 2002 there were DJs and musicians in Ivory Coast working on mainly congolese beats and changing them into what you call today Couper Decaler beats. “When it rains in Paris, it is getting wet in Abidjan and the other way round” – Ivorians in Paris are always in direct contact with Abidjan.
And they transferred the sound back to Abidjan?
Yes, in 2003 La Jet Set came to Abidjan and took over the music market in an artistic coup. It became very successfull very fast and today it is the leading club music in Ivory Coast spreading to other West African Countries.
Who produced the New Black album?
New Black was produced with Couper Decaler’s star singers and producers in collaboration with European and American singers and producers, so it is not a pure Couper Decaler album. It is an absolutely new combination with the individual influences of participants such as Ted Gaier and Melissa Logan. It has a big Couper Decaler impact as Skelly, Shaggy Sharoof Gadoukou la Star and Champy Kilo are protagonists of this scene. But I must stress, it is not a pure Couper Decaler album. It is something absolutely new! New Black!
Who was the driving force?
The theatre director Monika Gintersdorfer and the artist Knut Klaßen are the driving forces. Since 2004 they have being working with Ivorian dancers and singers in collaboration with German artists and in 2010 and 2011 they created a project named Rue Princesse , where they invited Erobique, Jacques Palminger, Melissa Logan, Nadine Jessen and Ted Gaier to come to Abidjan and join their Ivorian team to perform theatre and music in differnet spaces all over the city. So they’ve already done some hot club performances in Abidjan. Later they also included Timor Litzenberger as producer to their team doing more songs in Hamburg, Berlin and Krems in the context of Gintersdorfer/Klaßen festivals.
Can you tell us anything about the music scene in Abidjan?
Abidjan is known as a showbiz hot spot, where people from all over Africa like to produce music and do their promo. Popular styles are Couper Decaler, Zouglou, Reggae, Zouk. Abidjan has thousands of clubs in all categories and the population loves to go out. Very famous is a street full of clubs named Rue Princesse.
How was the experience of having the production between Abidjan, Paris and Hamburg?
In Abidjan we went to the studio of Champy Kilo and Elvis Segonde to produce there. Erobique also set up an improvised studio in our home to prepare the songs advised by Shaggy Sharoof in Couper decaler style. In Berlin we improvised in a studio at Haus der Kulturen der Welt during our festival and in Hamburg we worked at Kampnagel studio and later on in Timor Litzenberger’s studio in Krems. At Donaufestival we also set up ourselves an improvised studio. Monika Gintersdorfer did the translation between the Ivorians and the Germans, sometimes proposing topics or texts for the song and. The producers worked in collaboration exchanging sounds and ideas – so there was a lot of teamwork going on. Every song reflects the mixture of the individual approach of the participants – so you will hear them all
Is a tour planned?
Shows in march Hamburg, Berlin (March 4th. at About Blank), maybe Leipzig and we are also planning to perform in Abidjan later in this year
How was the project financed? Did you receive any funding?
It was financed by Gintersdorfer/Klaßen foundation and partnerships, that they got for their festivals for theater, dance and music performances. It was mainly financed by the Kulturstiftung des Bundes
Where else can we listen to the sound of Couper Decaler?
You can listen to some music over at www.ivoirmixdj.com of Abidjan and all over West Africa.
Will the album be released in the Ivory Coast/Africa?
First of all we bring it to the clubs in Abidjan. Then when people love it, we will think of a release.
Do you like disco? Do you like house music? Are you in Berlin this weekend? Are you free this Saturday night? Then you might want to visit Ritter Butzke in Kreuzburg to see Prince Erobique who will be bridling his party pony at the great Butzke gardens.
Erobique aka Carsten Meyer, the Munsterlandic hailing, Hanseatic living emperor of live disco editing, comes all the way from the shires of Hamburg to Germany’s capital, paying the rank and file citizens of Berlin a tribute from his treasure chest of live disco pearls and other edited jewellery. Joking aside: there’s probably no other musician in Germany that can keep the balance between a dj and live set as well as entertainment such as Erobique does. Check out this live recording of Erobique covering Marshall Jefferson’s club anthem ‘Move Your Body‘:
And then there’s his take on Joe? Smooth‘s ‘Promised Land‘:
Brilliant! Besides one of Erobique’s rare shows, Ritter Butzke will be opening its doors for live sets by Odessa and The Oakwoods and dj sets by Matt John, Empro, Martin Dawson, Shir Khan, Cocolores (all three of them Exploited Records), and many more.
It was a sunny afternoon in June 2011 when I met with Henning Besser, the thirtytwo-year-old Hanseatic behind the alias DJ Phono. Underneath the Heinrich Heine monument in Berlin Mitte’s Weinbergspark the artist and producer talks about his lost recordings, the connection between music and a good wine, the music culture of Hamburg, his involvement in Deichkind and Daft Punk nr. 2 as well as – of course – his latest album Welcome to Wherever You’re Not, which was just being released on Solomun’s label Diynamic. “My previous and first album came out that long ago, that this one really feels like my debut album”, says Besser when we step into the conversation. “I was 20 years old when I wrote that, it was a whole different idea of music than the one I carry around in my head these days …”
When did you listen to that for the last time?
I think that was five years ago? At that time after not listening to it for maybe four more years. I think I still like listening to it. I was young and impetuous, and I carried the idea of making music and living from it around in my head – becoming a pop star. Although I didn’t have the picture of a pop star in mind that one might think of when hearing the word. But still there was this naive idea, a dream.
But you didn’t arrange your songs like classical pop songs back then?
I’ve been working with Erobique a lot during that time, mostly on electronic music. My background was HipHop, therefore my music was influenced more by broken beats than by a techno bassdrum. I think I didn’t get the point about techno at that time, I drew a lot of influences from funk and soul, transformed into 120 to 130 BpM. That was certainly dance music. But since then I took my time. I’ve been focussing on my work as a producer for Erobique, Die Goldenen Zitronen and Egoexpress. And I’ve been working on an album with one of my best friends, Jan-Peter Heusemann, for nearly seven years now. We haven’t published this yet since it still isn’t finished …
Is it classified material?
It probably won’t be published at all. But the more quiet pieces on my new album might be a continuation of what started out together with Jan-Peter. It’s somehow based on the idea of a Magnum opus: always questioning oneself, making calm, long and free improvised music, taking in dynamics, club elements and an idea of pop music. But for the biggest part, this was an idea that had to do a lot with time.
Sounds like the basic premiss of making music – motivated by the process, not the product …
We’ve been sitting in the studio for nearly seven years. I do remember us once recording an organ, and while Jan-Peter was playing the instrument for around 10 minutes I nearly dozed off because I was hearing this one tone for a five straight minutes. But that was a great experience since this music and these moments changed something inside me. My understanding of music grew out of this and became the foundation of my new album.
So these ‘more quiet pieces’ of your new album Welcome to Wherever You’re Not are the ones that work without the use of a bass drum?
Right, mostly the first four tracks.
The basic feeling of the album to me is a very quiet one in general, maybe even melancholic though the record breaks out into club mode from the middle part. It lacks the usual euphoria you expect from club music …
There are some exceptions concerning euphoria, but melancholy is pretty ever-present with the album. I’m indeed thinking of this album as a concept album, but the basic idea isn’t melancholy. It was very important to me to capture very specific emotions within the music – all those moods that surrounded me during the two year long production period with Bernd Siebels aka A Different Jimi. Sometimes we’ve been working on just one piece for half a year. In the end the album is like a good wine: it consists of various flavours and sentiments – and melancholy is for sure the one aroma to be found in every track. On the other hand, Welcome to … isn’t a sad or desolate album …
It’s not a red-wine-drinker-being-in-the-doldrums album. More a Merlot of club records …
Music is of course always triggering on someone. If you’re in a melancholic mood yourself, music can pick you up there and lead you somewhere else. Or you can let yourself go, dive into this melancholy. This is very important to me: feeling the touch of music. That was my biggest wish for this album.
Welcome to Wherever You’re Not – the title seems to be like a farewell …
Oh! In fact, the album to me carries the exact opposite. Last year had a very loose work schedule for me. I had the chance to let myself go, let my thoughts wander and let things just go the way they were meant to go. I was reflecting my professional and artistic career and determining my next steps, pushing everything further into direction. And here we are again, music as places: the introduction to something, that wasn’t there before.
Where were you when you were working on ‘knarhcslhüK mi ttinhcsfuA hcon ebah hcI’? Song title of the year, by the way! (Editorial note: German for ‘I’ve got some cold cut inside the Fridge’, spelled backwards)
Every piece on the album has a very personal meaning, and all of them can be tracked down to my queen of hearts. Despite the melancholic moments there were that many great situations …
How much influence had the mammoth project Deichkind on your album? With Deichkind many things went way further than just music. I’m thinking of the stage show and the superelevation of the whole phenomenon.
Everytime when Deichkind was active, the project demanded very much time. Then came a big break in february 2010 which I then used to focus on myself and my album. But since I’ve been working on Welcome to … before that time, I then always had the impression of a balance act between Deichkind and DJ Phono production time. For us as a group, the huge success of Deichkind wasn’t foreseeable, which is why I was surprised, that at a stroke my whole year was being scheduled. On the other hand I can now forsee how my next three years will look like.
Is it soothing to have a tight schedule as an artist?
I’m feeling very ambivalent about this. You’re quitting on the choice to live your life more spontaniously. Of course one starts building a network around oneself, and it’s great receiving help from the people that surround you.
Time to time, the boundaries are blurring between Phono and Deichkind – You sampled and covered Daft Punk’s ‘Alive’ live show and worked – just as you did with Deichkind – with lavish stage décor.
This is an art project of mine, appropriation art. Besides my work as DJ Phono or with Deichkind I’m also working in the fields of visual arts. With this Daft Punk appropriation project I’m also drawing parallels to Deichkind: the main topics are performance and staging. I’m thrilled by the issue, to which part one can appropriate a live concept by others. Can I copy something anyway? Is it important, who’s performing right now? Especially with Daft Punk the question arised again and again, if that is Thomas Bangaltar and Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo themselves that are wearing the costumes. The idea of a forgery literally imposed itself. I’ll be repeating my original performance from 2009 during this year’s ‘Bread & Butter’ in Berlin. Of course, the production costs and the expense in general is very high.
How did the audience react to the premiere in Hamburg?
Incredibly great! Nobody knew about it in the first place and secondly it was being presented within a setting, that one would love to see the real Daft Punk playing: in front of just 1.000 people inside a kind of club surrounding. We’ve been working on this for six weeks with around 20 people. And although the whole thing was being held together by duct tape and toilet paper, it looked and felt very professional inside the dark club.
That sounds like the three characteristics of Hamburg: A network, improvisation and humour. Inevitably I tend to think of Golden Pudel Club in Hamburg’s Hafenstraße.
Golden Pudel still is my second living room. These three, maybe four dj sets I do a year at Pudel are very important to me, it is always something very special. There’s no other place such as the Pudel.
How long will Golden Pudel be around? For the first time in its history, a new company controlled by a foreign power is opening up on the club’s first floor. A restaurant.
I think that Pudel will be around for a very long time. Of course, the club – just as many other places in Hamburg – is subject of a certain development that is very annoying for everyone involved. But I think that Pudel won’t be affected on the long run.
What do you think of these developments in Hamburg in general?
I’ve got the feeling that Hamburg developed very much in terms of music over the last years, think of labels such as Smallville and Dial/Laid Records or Diynamic Music, which is now publishing my album. They worked very hard and received a great standing and artistic repertoire in return. I believe that much more will grow on this strong ground.
Was your choice to publish Welcome to Wherever You’re Not on Diynamic Music the most reasonable decision?
I thought about releasing the album by myself for a long time, via the label It’s – which was run by Richard von der Schulenburg, A Different Jimi and myself. But my alter ego was looking for a record label with its own structures. Diynamic was therefore pretty reasonable, especially since I personally know and valuate Solomun for a very long time now. I also appreciated his high interest in the record, that was very bold of him – especially, since the music on Welcome to … is not what one might expect to be found on his release schedule.
On the other hand, your album is not the kind of music one might expect as an outsider – given your Deichkind background.
Right, this is truly annoying! I really don’t have anything to do with the musical production in Deichkind and though I’m always being associated with it. From an artistic point of view, my work with Deichkind is working as a visual artist with non-artists. Which is very appealing to me although it is very exhausting at the same time. And this leads to confusion and misunderstanding, because many people or bookers are unable to separate the two projects. So as DJ Phono I always have to work against these expectations, to build up an own identity for this project. My new album is something very personal, virtually a Henning Besser album.
As Henning Besser you’re working as a visual artist, your album artwork then was created by other artists.
The idea for the artwork was being developed by two of my best friends as well as myself: Björn Beneditz, one of the founders of Hamburg’s WCW Gallery, where I’m exhibiting my own works. And secondly Carola Wagenplast, who is better know for her room installationswith Künstlergruppe Jochen Schmith. These two have always been my closest confidents, I cherish their artistic positions and arguments very much. Although I’m working within installation art, I’m pretty much ungifted when it comes to graphic design. This means that it was very important to strengthen myself technically anyway. Additionally, an artistic collaboration always works like a mirror image of yourself. I always loved to learn from other people.
How was the artwork created?
We produced 1.000 CDs, 300 vinyls and two singles each 500 copies, all of them with an individual artwork for every single release. We drew the lines with a refillable copic pen, which emtied during the painting until the colours faded. The photo image and the colours differ on the album and the singles. The music video for ‘knarhcslhüK mi ttinhcsfuA hcon ebah hcI’ was being shot with a fast motion animation. I took pictures of the front and the back side of each artwork and animated them afterwards to a moving collage.
What does the pictured sausage inside the glass tell us?
This belongs to the kind of things that I really can’t explain. This has nothing to do with theory, but with a feeling …
Humour from Hamburg …?
I like these moments in which I’m thinking: This is how it’s supposed to be. These moments when there’s nothing to explain anymore.
DJ Phono’s new album Welcome to Wherever You’re Not is out on Diynamic Music. Listen to his latest Electronic Beats radio session over here.
EB regular Robag Wruhme has teamed up with musician Carsten Meyer aka Erobique. The Hamburg based artist – together with DJ Koze and Cosmic DJ most renown for one of Germany’s greatest alt pop sensations, International Pony – has built up a massive reputation as the disco music entertainer extraordinaire. Within his often hours-long live sets, Erobique used to play a take on George Harrison’s compositions for The Beatles, ‘Here Comes the Sun’. Erobique’s twist was a kind of Babel fish’ed version of the original, but always funny and self-ironic.
Just some weeks ago the track started to show up in Robag Wruhmes DJ sets. It therefore didn’t come as a great surprise to see Robag posting a note on his Facebook page, stating that the track will receive a proper release via Leipzig based label kann records (b-side comes with a new track by Leipzig’s Map.ache). The 10" vinyl will be available exclusively during this year’s 14th installation of Nachtdigital (ND14) in Olganitz. Festival tickets are completely sold out since the end of last year, which means that the 3.000 festival guests have to try getting their hands on a copy (or more) of this release limited to 700 copies. Possible leftovers will be distributed through Nachtdigital shop and selected record stores.
As with every year, ND14 will offer up a creative playground for it’s guests. Fittingly, the cheeky titled track ‘Hier kommt die Sonne’ comes without artwork: buyers are being asked to create their own artwork on the ND14 compound. So don’t forget to bring your stamp, glue, wax crayons and whatever you’d like to see as an artwork for your copy of ND10".
Listen to a crappy quality live recording of Erobique x Wruhme below, catch up with Robag playing some music all over Europe.